Sons of God

Sons Of God ,Who Are They ???????????????
Are the sons of God angles ?
Are the sons of God man ?
ESV 78v with Son and God in the same verse with 11 exact phrases sons of God
KJV 74 -11 exact
Nasb 161 -10 exact
Niv 59-6 exact
Nlt 42-2 exact
2 verses, use son's of God in all the versions stated above.
Gen 6: 2,4 the verses that seem to be most contested as to who is being spoke of. taking a courtisy look at these 2 verses in other tranlations show NKJ ,HCS, NCV,God Word Translation all use son's of God .
The living Bible ,,Todays English Version ,an Conteporary English Use diffrent terms.Spirit bieng of supernatural biengs
The Word of God does give the answer to both ?'s this can be debated and evidence to show one thing or another and not have any agreement on the answer.
The term "sons's of God " does in fact referr to both man and angles . the debate come's in Gen 6.
Gen 6:1 When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. 3 Then the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not abide in man forever, for he is flesh: his days shall be 120 years." 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.
So Are these Sons of God men or angles? There are 2 oppinions about this .
1st the sons of God are the offspring of the Godly line of seth and the ungodly line of cain, because this union was so unholy that God decided to remove the wickedness from the Earth..
It was quit difficult to find scriture to support this view .
Deut 14:1 "You are the sons of the LORD your God. You shall not cut yourselves or make any baldness on your foreheads for the dead.
This is being spoken to the Isreal to not do as the pagens do. But what about the next verse.
Deut 14:2 For you are a people holy to the LORD your God, and the LORD has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth.
Had God truly choosen them prior to the flood?or wasn't it after Abraham that God Choose Isreal to be his people ? So because God new he would choose them does that make them the sons spoken of ? NO.
the next verse is used the most to say that the sons spoken of are not angles.
Mark 12: 25 For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.
Whats the problem here as it appliese to Gen 6 ? If the sons of gen 6 are fallen angles then they wouldn't be like the angles in heaven ,they would be in line with Satin to distroy Gods Creation.
Side Note if Angles are spoken of in the masculin then why would they marry? That would go against Gods Morals and charecture. Are there feminum angels.? See Zech 5:9 for a answer.
2 view The sons of God spoken of in Gen 6 are fallen angles.
Job 1:6, 2:1, 38:7 all speak of sons of God and is understood to be angles .
examle of one verse Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan also came among them.
Is there sufficiante evidence to show Gen 6 to mean angles.
2 Peter 2:4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to chains of gloomy darkness to be kept until the judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a herald of righteousness, with seven others, when he brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly;
these fallen angles are linked directly to the events leading to the flood.
Jude 6 And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day--7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.
Jude is speaking of angles that are not only fallen but have steped out of thier boundries.like sodum and gamorra they stepped out of the natural for the unatural.
Is there non-Biblical evidence of The sons of God being angles
In Jude , Jude qoutes Enoch about the coming Judgment of Mankind ,the qoute comes from the book of Enoch
Enoch 1:9 And behold! He cometh with ten thousands of His holy ones To execute judgement upon all,And to destroy all the ungodly:And to convict all flesh Of all the works of their ungodliness which they have ungodly committed,And of all the hard things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.
ESV Jude 14 It was also about these that Enoch, the seventh from Adam, prophesied, saying, "Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of his holy ones, 15 to execute judgment on all and to convict all the ungodly of all their deeds of ungodliness that they have committed in such an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things that ungodly sinners have spoken against him."

1 Enoch 6:1 And it came to pass when the children of men had multiplied that in those days were born unto 2 them beautiful and comely daughters. And the angels, the children of the heaven, saw and lusted after them, and said to one another: 'Come, let us choose us wives from among the children of men 3 and beget us children.'
1 Enoch 7:1 And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms 2 and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants. And they 3 became pregnant, and they bare great giants, whose height was three thousand ells: Who consumed 4 all the acquisitions of men. And when men could no longer sustain them, the giants turned against 5 them and devoured mankind. And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and 6 fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones.
So a book that Jude speaks about states that these sons of God are angles ,the book also goes on to the telling of Noah about the coming Floood judgement.
Althought this book is a apocrapha book the the teaching here seems to support the Bible not contridict it .(such as praying to the dead ,When Gods word says not to.)
My conclusion is that the Demons locked up in the abyss (Rev 9)are indeed these angles of Gen 6 that had relations with mankind. thier sin was not that they turned thier back on God and followed Satan(yes that was a sin) but that they had relations with Mankind ,Satans plane was to distroy mankind to pollute the human race . only the angles that commited this sin are locked up.for if all fallen angles were locked up then this world would probably be in peace?????????????
Just one more verse showing sons of God refering to man kind.
Gal 3:24 So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, 26 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith.

Is Batism requiered for Salvation or just a command to be done?

 Is baptism required for salvation???
Some scriptures may make it sound that way until you look into the structure of the verse.
There are also some translations that are just bad translations.One other thing to remember is to use scripture to interpret scripture. Gods Word remains consistent in doctrine and theology.

When is someone baptized?
ESV - Luk 3:3 -

And he went into all the region around the Jordan, proclaiming a baptism of repentance for the forgiveness of sins. Luke 3:3

John the Baptist performed baptisms for repentance ,in turn you received forgiveness of sins.

Repent then forgiveness.

ESV - Act 13:24 -

Before his coming, John had proclaimed a baptism of repentance to all the people of Israel. Acts 13:24

Again Johns baptism is for repentance.

ESV - Act 19:4 -

And Paul said, "John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in the one who was to come after him, that is, Jesus." Acts 19:4

So Johns baptism was to receive repentance ,does that sound right when compared to other scripture about baptism,remember the best commentary on the Bible is the Bible.

So lets look at other scripture on being baptized. You just might see that it's repent then be baptized.Salvation received at repentance ,and baptism a testimony of that salvation.

Mar 16:16

Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

This is a great verse notice it says who ever believes and is baptized will be saved ,BUT who ever  DOES NOT BELIEVE will be condemned. whats the important part of this verse?BELIEF ,without belief or you could say repentance there is no salvation. I don't think you could truly have belief without repenting. If baptism was requirement as part of the salvation plan then it would probably read  (who ever does not believe and is not baptized will not be saved )
ESV - Act 2:38 -

And Peter said to them, "Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38

The key here is the word " for " this word can change the complete verse  to say baptism is needed for forgiveness or baptism is done because of forgiveness. 

So lets look at the word "for" the word is a preposition and denoting entrance into or direction and limit.

So if the word "for" denote entrance into something then what are we entering? Forgiveness, we receive forgiveness when we repent ,so baptism is done not to receive forgiveness but because we have entered into forgiveness once we repented.

ESV

  - ActSo those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls. Acts2:41

Those who received  his word were baptized. Whats it mean to receive his word ? they believed or repented had forgiveness ,notice the verse doesn't say "were baptized and received forgiveness" just that they were baptized after believing . 

There are more verses Acts 8:36-37 the eunuch believed an was baptized , Acts 16:14-15 Lydia"s heart was opened and was baptized,Acts 18:8 Crispus and many Corinthians believed and were baptized..ect, ect,.

these last few verses I mentioned do not say they received forgiveness because of baptism ,but that they were baptized after believing ,I feel safe in saying when they believed they also received forgiveness.

In my opinion using the scriptures mentioned and others ,that baptism isn't needed for salvation ,that happens at  repentance ,but that baptism is a public display of being a follower of Christ. It's also one of the first commands we are given to do.  

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